Wargame: Red Dragon is about to celebrate its second birthday and we are committed to keeping it alive for some more …
Since the early days of the Wargame saga, forums as well our private message boxes have been filled with petitions, complaints even, about “missing” nations. Based on so many community requests, we have decided to give “Nation Pack(s)” a try.
For the first Nation Pack, we have selected the lucky winner: the Netherlands. The reason being that this nation is powerful enough to stand on its own among the “medium” nations, and fields both indigenous vehicles and an original combination of American, German & French equipments.
Yet, unlike the previous DLCs, Nation Pack would be paid one, although players without it would be able to play against (or allied with) players owning it, in order not to split the community. So far, we have been delivering three major DLCs as well as three Map Packs since the game’s release, all of them free. Such Nation Pack would give us the means to finance ongoing support to the Red Dragon and make sure that further balance patches and content will keep coming.
And should the Nation Pack concept be validated, it will pave the way for more nations, which we will let the community chose. Who knows, maybe Finland might show up in Wargame one day? 😉
Balkan
May 18, 2016 at 12:12 pmPlease confirm a Yugoslav deck, i have been buying your games since EE just for a yugo deck.
[EUG]MadMat
May 18, 2016 at 12:17 pmIf we go on with Nation Packs after this one, Yugoslavia is indeed one of the most serious contender … 🙂
Shaher
May 18, 2016 at 12:26 pm……and Spain and Italy arent?
Krmlmnstr
May 18, 2016 at 12:41 pmSo you will include the Netherlands AND Yugoslavia…?
When they face off, it is an automatic surrender like Dutchbat did? 😉
[EUG]MadMat
May 18, 2016 at 12:48 pmWe are adding the Netherlands. As said in the announcement, if the ‘Nation Pack’ proves successfull, we’ll consider adding more.
Maybe Yugoslavia, Italy, …
Rulan
May 18, 2016 at 9:31 pmReally happy to hear about Nation Packs, I’ve been wishing for this since RD first came out.
Just a reminder that enough research will produce viable decks for almost any minor NATO or Pact nation; http://forums.eugensystems.com/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=43440
Ruhrlands
May 19, 2016 at 7:57 amI think we need a taiwan too.
Maybe, when we make taiwan as Nation Pack, china can only block that Nation Pack, but not the whole game of Red dragon. Isn’t it a good idea?
Krmlmnstr
May 19, 2016 at 12:45 pmAnd WHEN will it be released?
Michael
May 20, 2016 at 12:48 amGreat news as this game is well worth supporting and keeping alive. I myself would only too happy to pay for further content to keep this amazing series going. Thanks Eugen for a great game, the best!
webmaster
May 20, 2016 at 10:01 amI like as a dutch player the netherlands but it is a bit strange choice The netherlands defence minister said this weak the can protect Netherlands anymore from as writen in Dutch law because of the less defence budgets decinal years.
[EUG]MadMat
May 20, 2016 at 10:07 amDuring Cold War, in case of a Warsaw Pact’s offensive, elements of the Dutch Army were earmarked for rapid deployment alongside the Bundeswehr.
FNPilot
June 12, 2016 at 2:55 amGreat job eugen, love the netherlands deck, keep up the great work looking forward to the next nation pack!!
TheLostNZ
June 15, 2016 at 1:51 pmJust an idea, a red and a blue nation at the same time? even if you bump up the price by 50%?
FNPilot
June 17, 2016 at 1:09 amlove the game so far excellent job in my opinion. Are there any plans for adding latin american countries ? like argentina or brazil? or will you focus more on europe and other major nations.
FNPilot
July 11, 2016 at 1:19 am??
reigners
May 20, 2016 at 3:10 amLets make Yugoslav deck an relive the Yugoslav War
Shaher
May 18, 2016 at 12:16 pmThank you for the Nation Pack “Netherlands”….now can i suggest a new Nation Pack? I would like to have Israel there. Before you come up with arguments against it let me tell you i will Sue you for “aniti-semitism” if you give me a no. Thank you EUGEN. You are the BEST!
Giuseppe Platania
May 18, 2016 at 12:38 pmItaly is one of the top NATO countries. Lot of original hardware.
steppewolf[RO]
May 18, 2016 at 12:44 pmAny chance for Romania? Worth updating that thread ? Thanks 🙂 I will gladly pay for any nation will be issued.
[EUG]MadMat
May 18, 2016 at 2:46 pmWho knows …
If this Nation Pack proves succesfull, we’ll make more of them, according to community requests.
WRD-RO
May 20, 2016 at 4:15 pmSocialist Republic of Romania all the way baby… on a non-biased oppinion, it would be interesting to see some soviet era tech together with some western bought technology that the romanian army had at that time… and let’s not forget the infamous mountain troops 🙂
Jazzmer
May 18, 2016 at 12:44 pmI do not understand that is not Spain .
[EUG]MadMat
May 18, 2016 at 1:10 pmBecause we had to choose one, and Netherlands made more sense that a nation which only joined NATO several years (1982) after Wargame’s timeframe (1975-1991), doesn’t provide much new equipment and is nowhere involved in Central European, Scandinavian or Asian affairs.
No need to provide links, we know the Spanish army. Maybe it will come later, but as of now, it doesn’t seem to be an obvious pick.
Fairy
May 18, 2016 at 1:00 pmYet another faction for BlueFor? Really? They already have much more countries than Red!
Francois
May 18, 2016 at 1:02 pmwhen is the release ? Amd when is the birthday again of wargame ?
Gatmaster
May 18, 2016 at 1:03 pmWill you be adding units for already existing nations like you did with the 2KW DLC?
Jazzmer
May 18, 2016 at 1:06 pmhttps://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ej%C3%A9rcito_de_Tierra_(Espa%C3%B1a)
Mad flanker
May 18, 2016 at 1:15 pmSingapore please?
roy hornstra
May 18, 2016 at 1:15 pmBring it, I will pay!
Metalover
May 18, 2016 at 1:24 pmAdd Greece Please 🙂
southen winds
May 18, 2016 at 1:26 pmEXCUSE ME
Y we should pay for Netherlands which have not any successful battel action in cold war?
Y not sth more famouse National pack such as southen eur middle east even Indochina Commonwealth？
Atreides
May 18, 2016 at 10:08 pm… Neither have most countries ingame right now, what’s your point? NL has been extremely game relevant since EE, it was a major NATO contributor during the Cold War and is still a serious Coalition partner today. Perfectly logical choice, much better than South Africa or Turkey.
Steve Staggs
May 18, 2016 at 2:24 pmI’d love to see a new campaign. I’d pay for any new campaign features. A campaign editor that lets us create battleground and or scenarios would be at the top of my wish list.
Jacob
May 18, 2016 at 3:05 pmThis is an amazing idea. And maybe a fix for a so they don’t just spam units and actually make smart movements?
Skjold
May 18, 2016 at 2:36 pmNeed more red factions!
Skjold
May 18, 2016 at 2:36 pmYou could always make Finland and combo it with Sweden. Would be awesome and cool.
Nero
May 18, 2016 at 2:37 pmReally glad that RD keeps expanding and a good idea with the paid dlc to make more content possible. You handled it perfectly with how DLC owners and non owners can still play with each other. Just hoping this wont delay Wargame 4. After reducing the amount of RD played I dunno if these packs really are interesting to me . Well lets wait for the complete unit list, if it has an indigenous feel to it then hey sure why not. If its just a boring Germany reskin thou then not. In any case looking forward to it.
Kione
May 18, 2016 at 2:40 pmNato atm has a lot of nations, so consider adding some to pact seeing as china and north-korea aren’t really a lot against almost any of the Nato countries
Asiatic Lion
May 18, 2016 at 2:41 pmWould be great to have a non aligned INDFOR faction.
Could include:
India
Brazil
Sri Lanka
Yugoslavia
Etc.
Even Iran and Iraq could be added, although I suppose they were technically BLUFOR during the Cold War
Skjold
May 18, 2016 at 4:37 pmI agree, non-aligned factions opens up many more options and you could make them playable on either side of the conflict.
Phantasm
May 19, 2016 at 4:18 pmWould really love to see Brazil in Wargame RD
BoltSauce
May 18, 2016 at 3:07 pmTurkey would be amazing to add to the game! They have loads of Unique units like the Altay tank, Own assault rifles, one of hte best special forces, upgraded F16 fleet, Their own artillery they made together with south korea, own ships etc etc.
Rivethead Rambo
May 18, 2016 at 4:12 pmFirst of all: Thank you Eugene, you are doing a great job!I really hope the Nation Packs sell well. Any Intel about the release date?
canseir
May 18, 2016 at 4:24 pmSpain is the second largest country in Europe, a little respect. He is a member of NATO, would have q be in the game from the beginning, big mistake. Material made available with as many kinds Italy, BMR, BEC, CENTAURO, PIZARRO.Que Spain and Italy are not in this game is an insult to Europeans.
[EUG]MadMat
May 18, 2016 at 4:54 pmCountries weren’t selected out of respect or size of the population, but if they made sense in the theater of operations wh had selected for our games. And neither in Central Europe, nor Scandinavia, nor Asia did Italy, and even less Spain, belonged.
For ALB, we had considered the Southern front, which would have included Spain, Italy, Turkey, Greece, Romania, Bulgaria, … , but we finaly selected the Northern one for Sweden alone brought more new/indigenous equipment than the whole Southern front alltogether.
canseir
May 18, 2016 at 5:39 pmfrom the time the game is called red dragon, you’re saying that there are two parts nato and belongs to block NATO rojo.España from 87. But you will not convince me nor I you, jajajjaj, but thank q answers and say you have a great game, for me the best of the moment and much encouragement to continue to improve. thanks for the free dlc is something q the comunidada appreciated.
WRD-RO
May 20, 2016 at 4:44 pmMaybe the southern front can make the scenario for a future wargame… a lot of mixture and possibilities in that area… or maybe something with the balkans during the break-up of yougoslavia, war in transnistria, war in georgia…
Maiser
May 18, 2016 at 4:28 pmDid you consider on adding a long term campaign map instead of adding new factions? I mean, i can not be the only one who see all the potential a “total war” like campaign would have in this game. The mechanics are there, each turn you get some points (for each territory) and you could just go conquer the world. The only thing it should be changed would be introducing a new map, remove the “turn limit” and perhaps introduce some simple diplomacy system based on relationship (previous battles, war with allies and military power). Some people would say “there is total war, for that”, but total war has no modern war games. I think this would be the only modern war game which would allow a strategic map+battleing, and all this with such little changes.
Daniel
May 19, 2016 at 11:39 amI love Your idea – and Eugen should think about taht.
Reis
July 5, 2016 at 1:13 amI really want something like that. Like Pacific Theater of Operations (P.T.O) but involve Air, Land and Sea.
Stealth17
May 18, 2016 at 4:39 pmVery nice Eugen! Glad you’re still supporting Red Dragon! Let me know if you need Dutch voice actors 😉
Greyhound dal bych Wargame
May 18, 2016 at 4:50 pmTake all my money. I want to give Eugen money to keep Wargame: RD alive. I even bought AoA although I was not that exited for it as for Wargame just to atleast give them something. Eugen desrves monies for all the free DLCs, best company ever. 🙂
RANX
May 18, 2016 at 5:16 pmThe game needs Israel, Italy and South Africa, as they have their own military-industrial complexes.
lucio
May 18, 2016 at 6:55 pmargentina??
Daniel
May 18, 2016 at 9:17 pmAs yours fan form europien escalation i would be happy on single palyer campain dlc like 2 war korea, but more turns conflict like not 22 but 30 – 40 and in times like 1992 – 1995 meabe yugosława and in this history line nato vs former warsaw pact (eastern block) plus advance units from 1995 (raptor and otjer tank stuff) sorry for my english. Grettings. I will pay for single player mission campain not much but something like max 10 – 15$
Gold
May 18, 2016 at 9:48 pmSeriously People, stop arguing why The Nederlands were choosen… I am Belgian and am sad there was no Benelux Instead.. but what ever.. Seriously.. They keep saying that more nation are to come if the nation pack is sucessful. Stop complaining.
Alex
May 18, 2016 at 11:08 pmPlease add Ukraine. By its military power Ukraine was the second powerfull nation in USSR.
[EUG]MadMat
May 18, 2016 at 11:11 pmIndeed it was, and is therefore part of the USSR, hence we won’t add it as a “nation”, as we won’t add North Carolina for the USA or Scotland for the UK …
Badwolf66
May 20, 2016 at 1:36 amYou would need a more modern Wargame based around 2014 when Russia Annexed Crimea.
Jouko Pentikäinen
May 25, 2016 at 11:21 pmA large reason they are not including recent crisis or units in the game is that they don´t want to piss anyone off. I think that is why they stick on speculative scenarios.
Superdupont
May 19, 2016 at 12:48 amGood news !
Some suggestions :
egypt (one of the most mixed equipement army, could be fun to have soviet/american/french equipements in one single deck) could be in redfor before 1980 and bluefor after, crazy no ?)
israel (of course, mixed us/french/local equipements)
iran (of course twice, deprecated us equipement and local)
turkey (turkey=>nato shield in mideast, us/local equipements)
irak (again, mixed assets),
syria (very soviet equiped for sure but …syria)
“generic african militia” (mixed light equipements from all over the world and they have pickups 🙂 – but very bad airforces for sure) could be present in bluefor and redfor
“generic mid east militia” (lebanon conflict) same as “generic african militia” but with different equipements
yougoslavia
india,
pakistan,
south africa,
angola,
cuba,
belgium,
greece (again very mixed assets)
think spain is out of scope, and italy too, italy is first an air/naval actor in nato organization, not a ground force.
that’s all, let wargame live forever
Carolus
May 19, 2016 at 1:43 amI’ll probably buy this because I love the game so much.
My two cents though: Should have done Syria/Egypt/Israel or India/Pakistan instead. Seriously, who wakes up in the morning yearning to play Netherlands?
Potential of factions above is amazing because all those factions where in fact at war during the timeline. Israel and Pakistan are blue (if that’s bothering you think again on post-1956 Sino-Soviet relations).
Yugoslavs? Why? Even crazier to have them as REDFOR.
Just wade into the murkiest geopolitical waters, Eugen. You’ll find them quite warm. Also alot of people would buy the game for those feature only. I know I would
Dinghy
May 19, 2016 at 1:58 amadd Taiwan ffs
Dyllan Harry
May 19, 2016 at 2:27 amHey guys, if you add any other Commonwealth nations (I.E India) would you add them to the existing commonwealth coalition force?
(also, would you consider having it so you get more units in a coalition, doesn’t make much sense to have less units in a single army force then a coalition of armies)
Mathieu Carrier
May 19, 2016 at 3:15 amthats what i want in the game!!
for me we should add:
Italy
Turkey
Yougoslavia
Pakistan
India
because thats some very powerfull nation and they got some home made stuff!
ZenTeapot
May 19, 2016 at 4:30 amIts good news that WGRD is expanding. I will definitely buy the national decks but the existing national decks still have a lot of room for tweaks and new nations, for example the Chinese deck may need some more variety. And definitely some more REDFUR decks please!
Bismuth
May 19, 2016 at 6:39 amI understand the desire to continue to make more (paid) content for Red Dragon players… However, wouldn’t it be more revitalizing for the Wargame community and Eugen to make another wargame-esque game? It doesn’t even have to be a modern military strategy game, it could be set in WWII. I’m sure the community would love (and buy) something like that.
Andrew
May 19, 2016 at 10:12 amLove your idea Maiser!!! Total War War game would be the best!!! This game has so much potential just add armies and maps. I am happy to pay reasonable amounts to buy DLC.
Nostroo
May 19, 2016 at 3:38 pmMaybe hungarian deck?
Nostroo
May 19, 2016 at 3:40 pmAnd Italian, Egipt, Israel, Spain.
Nostroo
May 19, 2016 at 3:41 pmand Turky
Phantasm
May 19, 2016 at 4:21 pmAny small chance that we will see more american nations coming in the future?Not counting USA, of course
Love the idea of more nations coming, wont mind pay for more high-quality content 😀
Deutsch
May 19, 2016 at 5:33 pmI think Turkey must be added to the game as well as other mediterranean countries and Turkey is one of the leading powers in NATO.
Senari
May 19, 2016 at 8:47 pmYou do realize now you gotta add Finland if this sells well? 😉
Senari
May 19, 2016 at 8:53 pmhttp://captiongenerator.com/16132/Finland-cannot-into-Wargame-Red-Dragon
[EUG]MadMat
May 19, 2016 at 10:40 pmGood one. 🙂
Dyllan Harry
May 19, 2016 at 8:54 pmguys, why do the Netherlands get the apache, but the British don’t, since both countries got there variants in 1995
Sonic1311
May 19, 2016 at 9:13 pmThank you! 🙂
I love Wargame and this new “country pack” is awesome idea!!
I liked it alot!
I hope you start add more countries, especially Finland 😉
Badwolf66
May 19, 2016 at 11:18 pmNice idea to keep Red Dragon alive!
I have a feeling these nations packs could be a test for… you know *Cough*Wargame 4*Cough* I could be wrong though, that teaser on Act of Aggression raises some questions you know?
reigners
May 20, 2016 at 3:12 am~ Eugene should make a Nation Pack that can join both Bluefor and Redfor..than make campaign where it can be used..
Lorcis
May 20, 2016 at 5:42 amwe don’t need wargame four, this one is only one year old and there is so much to expand upon, the navy could be repaired, improved.
would love a permanent global map, all battles could make a difference on that map, what fun that would be, how addictive that would be.
Would a community map editor be too much to ask for ?
This is my favorite game and i will keep paying for quality content.
Thank’s Eugen.
webmaster
May 20, 2016 at 10:24 amI hope indead they will realy improve the navy instead of nation pack, i like netherlands added as citizen. But i never understand that blue navy battle most time will be outrocket/outgunned to rusian ship because of there beter distance rockets? Or there better armor. My bad tactics/experience you only win if i guess you 5-1 to a rusian flagship
Антон Давыдов
May 20, 2016 at 8:28 amMaybe some solo-content in future for casual players like me?)
foestus
May 20, 2016 at 9:32 amsaw the news the 18th, saw the update the 19th, took it, like it a lot \o/
Isaiah belter
May 20, 2016 at 4:11 pmI hope they do some buffs to USA( It is in need of some) And i also want them to buff Anzac. They should also add a US/JP and US/SK and lastly US/AZ coalition. Cause they do exist and they existed back in the time frame this game is set
[EUG]MadMat
May 20, 2016 at 4:20 pmUSA aren’t really among those nations “needing” anything …
bobby
June 24, 2016 at 1:44 amHow about man-portable tow launchers?
Airstrike
May 20, 2016 at 4:14 pm90% of wars take place in the middle east, bow come there are no middle eastern armies, and a middle easter. Mods or maps would be amazing, and the diversty of weapons deployed or operated in the middle east are huge, take egypt as an example, they havr soviet, ameican and french weapons, it would be an amazing add, and would sta d in a category of ot own, not mention “israel” which has indisious tanks and other weapons, a d finally syria and iraq with a large fleet of tanks in the late 80’s and 90’s, so it would be great to see three fanctions in wargame, pact, nato, and middle east
Hoorigan
May 20, 2016 at 7:40 pmIf you guys keep making these, I will be poor. But I’m ok with that. Keep ’em coming! 😀
Hellcat
May 20, 2016 at 8:34 pmPerfect >:D Another nation.
Now what about any of the other european countries… Belgium? Italy? Spain? Austria? Greece? Especially Portugal? This might sound stupid or crazy, but Portugal would make a lot of sense in Red Dragon… If you’re gonna say no, then UK doesn’t make sense either. If you don’t know what I’m talking about check on a map, what’s right next to Hong Kong?
As for equipment it has a huge diversity, it would be something weak similar to Denmark’s power, but with a lot more vehicles to choose from, some not even in the game.
-One of the founding nations of NATO;
-Had a planned OrBat for Central Europe;
-Had a planned OrBat for the Italian region;
-Had some tensions with China, even a small skirmish on the border (check the map if you don’t know where);
-A variety of vehicles, more than some of the nations currently in the game, half of those vehicles not in game either.
Weber
May 20, 2016 at 11:00 pmGiven there’s a new Netherlands Nation Pack, is it possible to also have a Taiwan pack? It is Red Dragon after all, and Taiwan is a main player in East Asia….
Weber
May 20, 2016 at 11:05 pm(forgot to mention that Taiwan played a supporting role in BOTH the Korean War and the Vietnam War)
Philip
May 21, 2016 at 10:33 amHow about DLC campaigns?
Alex K
May 22, 2016 at 5:24 pmMultiplayer campaign possibly in the future for Red Dragon?!?!?
Raz1k
May 22, 2016 at 7:08 pmAdd Vietnam and Cuba Please. =D
FulmenTheFinn
May 26, 2016 at 12:23 amFinland next, please! I’ve been waiting since EE!
Outlaw
May 30, 2016 at 6:37 pmI would pay handsomely for a 6-Day/Yom Kippur pack featuring the parties involved with that conflict.
Joseph
June 1, 2016 at 1:58 amI think Hungary, Cuba, Vietnam and Taiwan would be awesome additions
blitx8
June 9, 2016 at 2:55 amHello, Italy and Yugoslavia must be in this game
Jordi
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I really try to master RD but its new mechanics are pretty different from ALB.
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Luis
June 21, 2016 at 1:47 amI play wargame mostly because of the unrivaled selection of units and the great way they behave. (Other games with a good selection of units often have ridiculous (in a bad way) mechanics).
So I think it would make sense to include Israel in the next nation pack with special units such as: Merkva tank (1978-intro/1982-first major deployment[wiki]),
IAI Lavi prototype fighter jet (1986- program was developed further than Canada´s Chimaera tank)
IAI Nesher (a iraeli version of Dassult mirage 5)
recon uav´s developed in the 70´s would also be a great addiction.
S-300 (1978) would also be really cool
Italian Player
June 22, 2016 at 5:35 pmI think that Italy is a good choice, it is an important country member of NATO and stood on the border with the communist bloc, in fact, has many national military bases and even NATO and the US.
Italy has a good Army with American elements and Germans but also original and own manufacture.
As follows, but only following, development would not hurt Yugoslavia and then Israel and Egypt.
An expansion that I think might be interesting is an upgrade that includes for the various countries, the most modern means until the year 2000 or 2016 including latest generation prototypes.
Manuel Martinez
June 27, 2016 at 11:08 pmPlease add more campaigns, like war scenarios from the Middle East. Perhaps the Arab Israeli War both of them. And please the Falklands War from the Argentinian Perspective, that would be one of the most challenging campaigns in the game if you guys make it