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A preview into Finland…

A preview into Finland…

As we have been giving you an insight into the upcoming Yugoslav army a few days ago, here is another one into the second nation being brought to you with the upcoming Double Nation Pack: REDS, Finland.

Therefore, it is due time (ALB-due, according to some 😉 ) to bring the Puolustusvoimat, the Finnish Defence Force (FDF) into the light.


Finnish models are all done, and although we are still working on balancing it, we have already started play-testing Finland as a Wargame nation. By that, we mean that lead game designer Stephan ‘Panzer‘ Hernandez & game designer Félix ‘FLX‘ Habert have been beating the c… out of their unfortunate colleagues (including your humble servant) those previous days, to “test the water” as they say.

According to those experts, Finland’s prima donna will be its “excellent reconnaissance tab“, providing “a wide array of choices, ranging from the very stealthy to the very powerful“. This ‘recon in force’ will be backed up by a strong infantry line-up, “with an emphasis on close quarter” with their trustworthy WW2 Suomi-KP SMG still equipping several units (and not necessarily second-lines ones, like in other nations) and a “large choice of shock troopers & commandos with CQC MG, giving the FDF an uncanny ability at clearing urban areas & woods“. Some kind of Cold War’s wood elves defending their patch of woods, then … 🙂

Another FDF strong suit will be its support tab: even before the Wall fell, Finland had secured import of high-end AA weapon systems from both East & West, granting it a “well furbished & efficient air defense net“. Besides, Finland has always been a major producer (and consummate user itself) of mortars of all shapes & calibers.

The eyes of the army

Finland’s recon tab is a small army by itself, with powerful infantry units, powerful combat vehicles, stealthy and/or very efficient intelligence operator.

True to the FDF tradition or long range recon/raid, its recon infantry will be represented by the all-era Sissi, wielding the famous Suomi-KP SMG, and a late Special Force unit whose name shall strike terror (or at least, confusion) into their enemy’s heart: the Erikoisrajajääkäri. The latter are a 10-man elite recon squad, armed in the SAS/LSTR way, with heavy LAW (APILAS) & MANPAD (Igla), plus a Stallone-approved SMG: the Jatimatic. Both squads are very useful to lay ambush behind enemy lines or hunt & destroy enemy rangers…

With Finland making its (belated) entry into Wargame‘s universe, we have taken the opportunity to introduce a new unit type: bikers. Or, more exactly, ATV riders, since two-wheels wouldn’t be modeled properly. Thus, the FDF Mönkijä will be a very small & very stealthy jeep, but also more fragile!


Finnish Border Guards will also bring their contribution to the recon tab, in the form of patrol helicopters: the antiquated Alouette II and the much more modern JetRanger, the latter being loaded with night & thermal vision, radar equipment,… hence being granted Exceptional optics ingame.

Finally, the Finland fields several combat vehicles for ‘recon in force’: aside from the ubiquitous PT-76B and a more unusual recon BMP-1 TJJ, the FDF can rely on a late uparmored engineer T-55M Pionpsv & a prototype BMP-1KT armed with… a deadly Bushmaster II 30mm autocannon.

The guerilla army

As mentioned before, the Finnish infantry line-up may be regarded as quite strong, with two variants of elite naval commandos (Rannikkojääkäri), several choices of shock armored riflemen (Panssarijääkäri) & Guards light infantry (Kaartinjääkäri), all of them CQC specialists, plus regular riflemen (Jääkäri). Reserve infantry (Nostoväki) will be another novelty in Wargame: being armed with the WW2 iconic Lahti 20mm anti-tank rifle, they were re-rolled after a few tests from militia 10-man rifle squad to… militia 5-man FIST squad.

Lacking an ATGM squad in early games, Finland was thus (notwithstanding the Nostoväki mentioned above) entitled to a FIST squad: it will come in the form of the Raskassinkoryhmä squad’s Musti 95mm RCL. Later, the PstOhj 82M (Konkurs) and the prototype PstOhj 94 (Spike-MR) teams will give the FDF some better anti-tank options.

Finally, Finnish infantry will include the usual command squad and MANPADs (ITO 78 & ITO 86M).


Never without my mortar!

The Finnish army could be defined by its mortars: it seems like you can’t flip a coin out there without it falling back in the tube of one of those weapons! The Israeli Makmat‘s 160mm heavy mortar actually mounts the Finnish M-66 Soltam. Thus it is only fair for them to field it too (TelaKrH 66), supported by other 82mm & 120mm calibers. The other tube artillery, howitzers, include 122mm PSH 74 (Gvozdika) & 152mm TELAK 91 (2S5 Giatsint-S, a missing Soviet artillery gun so far).

The FDF artillery also field a powerful MLRS choice, with RAKH 76 (BM-21), RAKH 89 (RM-70) & RAKH 91 (BM-27) providing heavy fire support with either HE, napalm or cluster ordnances.

Then we have the air defense … Although lackluster in the early 80’s (Neva, ZSU-57-2 & truck-mounted ZSU-23-2 Sergei), it enjoys a major upgrade in the late 80’s/early 90’s, thanks to import contracts secured with both the West & the USSR: ITO 96 (Buk-M) & ITO 90 (improved Crotale NG launcher mounted on a XA-185 chassis) for SAMs ; ITPSV Marksman (improved Marksman turret on T-55 chassis) & the evilly sly Sergei Mod for SPAAGs. The latter, although still looking like a mere truck-mounted ZSU-23-2, should not be taken lightly: being the most expensive upgrade ever for such a weapon system, it transforms this little gun truck into a formidable killer! Still very fragile, this little spider leaves no chance to a chopper entering its web, and even planes have learned to fear it.

Hell on wheels

Finland’s vehicle tab will include a wide array of wheeled vehicle choice. As Sisu Pasi‘s home country, it was to be expected that the XA-180 APC is very widely represented in the FDF, in many roles: APC (XA-180XA-185, …), IFV (XA-185KRKK with AGS-17, prototype XA-185KT with Bushmaster II), SAM (ITO 90), ATGM carrier (Pstpsajon), command,…

Unlike Yugoslavia, Finland’s motorized deck might prove very powerful, with a more lackluster mechanized one (ATGM-less BMP-1 & BMP-2).

Regarding tanks, Finland doesn’t have as many than other country, but they are reliable T-55 & T-72, locally upgraded. FLX refers to them as “glass cannons“, with pretty good accuracy and AP but less “heavy” ones than other nations. Yet, the FDF can count on the prototype major upgrade T-72M1MOD, which could be regarded as the illegitimate son of a T-80U & Leclerc.

Plus… they had StuG III, named Sturmi, in their inventory up to the mid-70!  🙂


Achille’s Heel

FDF has some very powerful assets (infantry, recon, …) but suffer from some handicaps: being bound by the 1947 Treaty of Paris, it is forbidden to own AGM missiles or cluster ordnances for its planes. Nor does the FAF have SEAD missiles at its disposal. Yet, the FAF doesn’t lack in bombers and air superiority fighters.

Another bad spot of the Finnish inventory lies with its choppers. Although it owns some late HH-10 (TOW Defender), most of the (few) FDF gunship are Mi-8 hastily rigged with planes’ rocket launchers or cannon pods.

To conclude, from our tests the FDF has been several times compared to a “REDFOR France“, with an emphasis on highly mobile wheeled vehicles, good infantry & glass cannons (by REDFOR standard: we’re talking T-72 glass cannons here, not AMX-30!).


Previews on Twitch next week!

FLX & Alexis will be on Twitch next week to showcase the news armies :

-Monday 21st: FINLAND
-Thursday 24th: YUGOSLAVIA

We’ll be live at 12PM EDT / 9AM PDT / 6PM CEST (check your timezone here!). Follow us now!



  • Greyhound
    November 17, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    Any changes to grenade launchers please?

  • F.C.I.W.G
    November 17, 2016 at 5:35 pm

    I hope that the names are going to be corrected because many of them are wrong. The “Novostäki” for example. It probably should be Nostoväki.

  • Archduke_Franz
    November 17, 2016 at 5:47 pm

    Any chance Cuba [a country that actually fought during the Cold War] will be added?

    • IFP
      November 17, 2016 at 9:50 pm

      That would be awesome. They add a rather neutral Yugoslavia and not Cuba that sided with USSR, right? 😛

      • Niko Virta
        November 17, 2016 at 10:37 pm

        well, both yugo and finland are neutral so there’s logig there somewhere…

        • Archduke_Franz
          November 18, 2016 at 6:55 pm

          Sadly the developers seem to be focusing only on appeasing their European customers. I’m not against them adding more European nations, but it is important to understand the majority of them played an insignificant role during the Cold War. They didn’t even fire a shot. On the other hand, nations like Cuba [Latin America] and Vietnam [Asia] did play a very significant role during this time period. Thousands of Cuban forces fought in Africa [Angola & Ethiopia]. How many countries currently in Wargame: Red Dragon actually deployed forces in significant numbers overseas during this time period? Not many [basically, only the USA and USSR]. EUGEN…PLEASE consider adding Cuba. Thank you.

          • Vanguard77
            November 19, 2016 at 10:01 am

            !? UK, France, Canada, Australia, New Zealand all deployed in multiple theaters around the world….more than Cuba….

          • Xeno
            November 19, 2016 at 7:40 pm

            Problem is, Cuba and Vietnam had basically copy-paste militaries that lacked modern equipment. There would be no purpose to buy or use them. Meanwhile, Yugoslavia, Israel, Finland, and the Netherlands all had/have unique and modern equipment.

  • The Finn
    November 17, 2016 at 6:08 pm

    Sounds awesome! As a native Finn, I can help you with the proper Finnish names for the troops, as you have made quite a few translation errors.

    Please find the corrected translations below:
    Mönkijää -> Mönkijä
    Kaartijääkäri -> Kaartinjääkäri
    Novostäki -> Nostoväki

  • Alan
    November 17, 2016 at 6:31 pm

    any chance of some blackwatch or another famous unit for nato?

    us jocks need something 😀

      • Alan
        November 17, 2016 at 11:56 pm

        i hope that’s a joke

      • Philippe Tricot
        November 18, 2016 at 4:04 am

        There was 2 regiments during the cold war called “Blackwatch”, one from the UK and one from Canada… -_-

  • Hannu Laakko
    November 17, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    Reserve infantry is “nostoväki”, not “novostäki”. Also the raskassinkoryhmä has Musti anti tank weapon not Müsti.

  • MeemiMestari
    November 17, 2016 at 6:35 pm

    Its Nostoväki, not “novostäki” 🙂

  • Tommy
    November 17, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    Please note that Finland uses 81 mm mortars, not 82 mm 😉

  • Pekka Pohjola
    November 17, 2016 at 7:13 pm

    Jatimatic for erikoisrajajääkäri? Really?

    • Niko Virta
      November 17, 2016 at 10:39 pm

      shush, i REALLY want jatimatic to be part of the finnish lineup…

      • Tatu Karlsson
        November 19, 2016 at 10:19 am

        I think rk-62 and a sniper rifle along with a rocket launcher would be the most realistic loadout for the Erikoisrajajääkäri

  • MPouta
    November 17, 2016 at 7:15 pm

    Reserve infantry (Novostäki)?
    You have a typo here (consistently), it’s “nostoväki”, meaning reservists. Kinda like Yegibun for S-Korea. Also I find it a bit amusing I’m apparently trained in shock troop tactics but hey, I’ll take it. Can’t wait for this deck to roll out!

  • Flim
    November 17, 2016 at 8:13 pm

    Looking very good! The FDF definitely adds a new dynamic to the game. Can’t wait! 😉

  • adix
    November 17, 2016 at 8:34 pm

    Nice and realistic..Airforce have some MIG 21, J 35 DRAKEN and CM 170 MAGISTER’s in inventory?

      • adix
        November 17, 2016 at 8:54 pm

        Good idea regarding mixing the technologies!A lot of thanks for this new basic improvement of the game.Just waiting the release.

      • MPouta
        November 17, 2016 at 9:43 pm

        I approve of this message! As with the planes, this was why making an impromptu Finnish deck was downright impossible before because you couldn’t get Pasis and BMP-1s in the same deck.

        One comment, though: you say
        “ATGM-less BMP-1 & BMP-2”
        but in fact the Finnish BMP-1s (I should know) at least came equipped with PstOhj 82M (Konkurs). They were just very rarely used because those things were pretty expensive, but the fact remains they could be equipped.

          • Tommi
            November 17, 2016 at 11:43 pm

            Rarely mounted only at the peace time, there are a lot of weapons and vehicles stashed on all kind warehouses and underground bunkers and so on all over Finland.
            In case of an attack, weapons are taken out and mounted and quick training is given to operators.

            There are full underground bunkers things full of fighters, tanks, mines etc etc.

            Everything is designed and distributed for a Sissi combat to prolonged war all around the country against anyone, not just Soviets.

            The normal variants would have them at war time, but not at peace time.

  • Tommi
    November 17, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    I think that after 1962 the special forces should use RK62 (Rynnäkkö Kivääri 1962, direct from Assault Rifle 62) as even at 60’s usual infantry squads (10 men) used “Pystykorva” rifles and had two those Suomi-KP SMG per squad and one Russian PKM as machine gun per squad or instead PKM a one finnish made “KvKK62” what is “Kevyt KoneKivääri 1962” that uses same caliber as RK62 and is crazy fast and light.

    And each squad as well got since 1985 a sniper per squad carrying a “Tkiv85” (“TarkkuusKivääri 1985” / sniper rifle 1985).

    And one special forces would be nice to see, “SotilasPoliisi” aka “SP” what is “Military Police” that is specialised to operations inside country lines, behind the defence lines to defend and protect important urban areas against enemy special forces infiltration and sabotage. SP ain’t frontline units but as capable for that as well, but mainly responsible for special defensive actions (would be great to have and give a best CQC capabilities to defend against any other threat). No, they don’t just go pickup drunk soldiers from bars etc.

    So while normal Jägers work everywhere, special jägers work either in assaults, recon or in defense. Just like Kaartinjääkärit has specialized to urban combat in assault as defences, the SP is for defensive as hostage situations and such inside country.

    Sad part is that WG cant cover 2003 when Finland made deal to buy Leopard 2A4 tanks. Would have been great as special small batch for some games but better this way.

  • Herbyone
    November 18, 2016 at 12:10 am

    Quite as expected except no AMOS?

  • Mikael Laine
    November 18, 2016 at 2:05 am

    Why REDS?!
    Finland was never a part of the USSR and its only Cold-War time enemy was soviet Russia, which it fought in WW II, alongside Germany.

    It would be more realistic if Finland was BLUE.

      • Mikael Laine
        November 21, 2016 at 6:02 pm

        You misunderstand history badly. Its true there was a degree of agreement on paper, but that does not change the fact that Finland never had any other geopolitical enemy but Russia, not for a thousand years!
        Any war preparation during the cold war in Finland was in preparation of a Russian invasion. In that sense Finland always belonged tightly in the BLUFOR/west. There was a secret agreement that Sweden would provide more Drakens in case of war, for example.
        There is no realistic scenario in which Finland would have been pitted against western units, as is now the case in this DLC.
        As for gameplay, it would have been much more interesting to see how the REDFOR units would work against each other.
        Perhaps introduce the NEUTRAL faction that can be on either side?

        • vveyro
          November 21, 2016 at 11:09 pm

          Agree, very badly. It’s completely ridiculous from Finns perspective. All our army ever existed, trained or prepared for in last 100 years, was to counter Russian invasion. In 1980’s people had deep hatred and fear of Russia, youth listened to American music, watched American movies and wanted to be Americans, in essence. Attitudes towards Russia only started to get better after Soviet Union collapsed. Developer has poor understanding of Finland’s history, they can’t even pronounce the unit names (which were still full of typos in Twitch stream) and put some joke-of-a-gun as Jatimatic into the game so doesn’t surprise me.

          “Because the Western countries pretty much considered Finland to be a part of the Soviet camp”. Everyone considers French to be famous for waving the white flag? What outsiders think, and what you really are is two different things. What you say you would do on a treaty paper, and what you really would do, is another two things.

          • vveyro
            November 21, 2016 at 11:22 pm

            Finland has a very well known common saying, “Ryssiä” which means “Do it like Russians” which means “Fuck it up”. You really managed to “ryssiä” this. While I’m intrigued by my country being in the game, I’m also appalled at your poor interpretation of history.

        • Mikael Laine
          November 22, 2016 at 5:21 pm

          Really Finland was just as BLUFOR as Sweden. Both were neutral countries that did everything they could to stay free of the red menace and war as well.

      • dapolek
        December 23, 2016 at 2:19 am

        add Italy and turkey please.

    • vveyro
      November 21, 2016 at 8:38 am

      Considering Erikoisrajajääkärit will use Jatimatic, realism doesn’t seem to be huge deal for Eugen. FDF had 5 Jatimatics for test use in 1996, and it was difficult to aim with because no sights and tilted barrel structure, bad overall quality, too complicated and slow to reload in combat, shell casing came out twisted into curved shape, if snow went into the gun it fired twice as fast (1500rpm). So military didn’t even consider the gun despite it being Finnish make, because it was crap. It only was ever good enough for movie prop, not FDF. Erikoisrajajääkärit would use Rk-62 which is basically a Finnish made improved version of Kalashnikov.

  • Hello !
    November 18, 2016 at 3:01 am

    I asked Eugen about Cuba by mail (in France because I’m and they are french) and they said Cuba is not “so great to design because they have nothing different in equipement to USSR and funny spanish voices is not enought to make a pack” !!! :-((( AS EVERYBODY HERE IN THE FORUM I ASK FOR A GREAT CUBAN ARMY PATCH WITH AWSOME COMMANDOS (and troops experts as they send in Africa during cold war – Command units and superior CV could be an axis for the cuban patch) WE DON’T CARE ABOUT CUBAN EQUIPEMENT DESIGN WE ARE ALSO HERE JUST TO PLAY AND HAVE FUN ! PLAY WITH GREAT CUBAN ARMY AGAINST USA PLAYERS IS A SUPERIOR SATISFACTION BY ITSELF !
    I asked Eugen about SOUTH AFRICA a great weapon designer they said “nobody asked for it but yes S.AFRICA would be a great nation pack” SO DON’T WAIT FOR A VOTE ! IF IT’S A GREAT PACK JUST DO IT DAMN IT !!!
    – IRAK (BLUE NEUTRAL trough France)
    – CUBA (RED)
    – ETC …


      • Nando
        November 19, 2016 at 9:45 pm

        In fact, we expect that the next nation is Italy for 3 reasons:
        1) was passed immediately after Yugoslavia and Finland
        2) it has many original units and vehicles
        3) complete the European framework

  • Matthew Warren
    November 18, 2016 at 4:33 am

    I am not sure if you can answer this, or if you’d even want to. But if the sale of these extra nation packs are profitable enough, would Eugene consider adding more nations.

    I ask solely as while the community is a little smaller from when the game first came out, it hasn’t decreased by a substantial margin over the years. At least not to through my eyes.

    These additions are really great, and frankly if you can turn them out every 3-6 months…. just wondering if its iron clad that this will be the last content addition.

    Game is fantastic by the way, you guys are doing a great job. It’s pretty much impossible to make things PERFECTLY balanced, but when was any real fight fair. I can’t wait for the release of your new content. All the best.

  • Casey
    November 18, 2016 at 7:39 am

    I’m totally unfamiliar with both Finnish and Yugoslavian equipment so this is super rad to have. Glad to have two whole new REDFOR nations. Excited for the quad-bike recon and the anti-materiel rifle.

    I appreciate y’all continuing to support Wargame over the years. Easily one of my favorite games and the Dutch and Israeli additions really brought me and my friends back into it. Can’t wait for the Finns and Yugos!

  • Ikeeplosing
    November 18, 2016 at 9:50 am

    How much will it cost?

  • adix
    November 18, 2016 at 12:41 pm

    Is there a F 18 in the picture?
    Will be in FAF? That would be really great

    • Molekyylitatti
      November 18, 2016 at 8:32 pm

      Should be since FDF uses F/A-18C’s

      • adix
        November 18, 2016 at 9:42 pm

        Yes, since 1995 if I know well….and , in the game , the military equipment is till 1996, if I remember properly…so, good chance to be there and a welcome real mix Est-West tech on airforce….Mig 21 and maybe some older MIG s near CM 170, J 35 DRAKEN and F 18….sounds very-very nice

  • Alexandros Alexakos
    November 18, 2016 at 1:49 pm


  • Murre
    November 18, 2016 at 3:24 pm

    ITPSV Marksman also has a Leopard 2 conversion existing. Do you have that as a prototype option?

  • Celmeo
    November 18, 2016 at 7:46 pm

    What countries could Finland coalition with? As a Finnish Chinese, any chance we could have a Finland – China coalition (with completely no historical basis at all apart from both countries hating soviet union)… pretty please with cherry on top?

  • Hunter7541
    November 18, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    MadMat, do you guys at Eugene already know what coalitions each nation will have, if any?

      • Bad Humour
        November 18, 2016 at 9:39 pm

        woa a bit too much information… You wouldn’t want to spoil it 😛

      • adix
        November 18, 2016 at 9:40 pm

        So, Eugen, you give us the good news that there will ba also new REDFOR coalition/s?

  • AegisWolf
    November 19, 2016 at 10:02 am

    You are going to teach us how to pronounce all these correctly, right?



  • Tatu Karlsson
    November 19, 2016 at 10:41 am

    How about Laskuvarjojääkärikoulu (Parajäger school) and Sukeltajakoulu (Diver school)? Laskuvarjojääkärit (parajägers) and Taistelusukeltajat (combat divers) are best special forces Finland has to offer along with Erikoisrajajääkärit. Tbh, both of the special forces I mentioned are far more famous than Erikoisrajajääkärit. Laskuvarjojääkärit belongs to the ground forces, Taistelusukeltajat to the navy and Erikoisrajajääkärit to the border control (which isn’t tecnically a part of FDF). Also, I would recommend that Erikoisrajajääkärit could have rk62 along with a rocket launcher and a sniper rifle. It’s far more realistic than Jatimatic. Laskuvarjojääkärit would use similar equipment, but they would be transported by helicopters instead of cars. Taistelusukeltajat would enter the battle on a boat or by car.

    Please, concider these ideas. It would be awesome!

  • Kamov
    November 20, 2016 at 1:54 am

    Now, it wouldn’t be very realistic to include the hornet, since the west wouldn’t have sold it during wartime to Finland, obviously. Now, there was a competition between the F-18 and the Mig-29 back in the day, so the Mig-29 would have been chosen instead. However, i don’t mind too much having the F-18. Gives quite an interesting scenario having an Redfor high-end ASF.

  • Robbini
    November 20, 2016 at 1:52 pm

    Being part of the Coastal Jaegers myself, specifically a medic assigned to the Coastal Robot Missile Platoon, i’m curious about the naval aspect.

    Although it’s unlikely that you’ll actually implement the idea of infantry-carried missiles being able to disable ships by targeting critical points, i’m wondering about the amphibious & naval transport vehicles for Finland. Although the idea of the CRM was probably not very known during the Cold Wars Era, the missiles currently in use are a variant of the Spike missiles, only they’re a lot bigger than the Pst / Anti-tank missiles that you’re saying will be put in the pack.

  • FulmenTheFinn
    November 21, 2016 at 11:45 am

    Why is the Jatimatic in the game? This SMG was not even considered to be adopted by the FDF because it was crap. They basically did some tests with it on a firing range to see if it was any good, that’s all.

  • FulmenTheFinn
    November 21, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    Why would the FDF upgrade to a weapon not suitable as a service weapon? That’s not an upgrade, that’s a downgrade.

    IRL the KP-31 was replaced by the Rk-62 (and in some cases eventually Rk-95) assault rifle. The SMG upgrade was the MP5 (KP-2000 in FIN), but it’s not really used outside special forces and both civil and military police. I don’t know the exact adoption date, but I assume it’s around 2000 (hence the name), so it might be too late for the FDF deck.

    I’d just use the Rk-62 in the game as it’s the actual RL upgrade from the Kp-31.

  • HunterHellquist
    November 21, 2016 at 1:05 pm

    That is all fine and so, but please, WE NEED BIGGER MAPS!!!
    Some new small and some maps capable of 5vs5 or 6vs6 would make it just epic. Also, neutral FOBs woub be nice targets for conquering.

  • j.n.t.k
    November 21, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    madmat : Wargame: Red Dragon Nation Pack in the circle Votes, will eugen make all of those nation in the circle vote after sell 2nations redfore?

        • j.n.t.k
          November 21, 2016 at 5:45 pm

          in word “circle vote ”
          i mean picture of circle in blog (The votes are in! And the next Wargame Red Dragon Nation Pack is… )
          it have 1 israel 2 yugoslavia 3 finland and other nation pack

          after eugen sell yugo and finland pack after that will eugen make the other nation come to sell more ?

  • Miika
    November 21, 2016 at 8:22 pm

    Just a small request: Can you add name Miika in the finnish soldier names. I am Erikoisrajajääkäri myself and would love to just play around guys that have my name 😛 I know probably every kid online asks you these things but I had to ask to get a better chance for it to happen.

      • Miika Oinonen
        November 21, 2016 at 11:26 pm

        After making this comment I checked the stream video and noticed you mentioning that, thanks for mentioning it here also 🙂 as I started playing Wargames at the start of end year I wasnt really active on the forums yet, before I heard Finland is coming in to the game so this leads to the question : Are we going to find the “engagement list” on some specific section of the forums or on some other place?

  • Apofis
    November 21, 2016 at 8:53 pm

    I’m fairly understand why you have put Finland in REDFOR and as a mainly REDFOR player i’m happy about it. But can u explain me how FIN got spikes and TOWS because it’s not like F18C (which is also strange cuz it was new air craft for that time …) , ok they bought it and they have it and adjust it to russian missiles and bombs. Because i hardly belive that they could make these stuff on license or copy it … If they are considered as enemy to BLUEFORS they wouldnt get new supplies from them…

  • adix
    November 22, 2016 at 1:17 am

    Well, I must say..great job….Aviation is a great mix..having Il 28, Hawk, Mig 21, Mig 29, J 35 and F 18C together….great, even if air-to-ground armamanet is not so developed, but..this is the reality…also great, all family Patria is there…with guns, missiles and machineguns….nice!…Konkurs&Spike…Crotale&BUK&IGLA&Marksman&ZU 23 interesting mix..strong MLRS artillery….. and, important to mention, the development of finnish T 72, BTR 50 with gun and new units like the iconic STUG.Appreciate also that you didn’t let the Finnland without choppers….that MI 8 with unguided missiles and guns..great job as well as reccon helos and that tiny sting HH10.One after all, from a country without spectaculous military equipment…you obtain a pretty new collection and combination of force. Waiting for Yogoslavia twitch and hopeing in a soon release of this double deck.

    • Awesomer
      November 22, 2016 at 10:02 pm

      Hi MadMat,

      Eugen has done some excellent work. Just out of curiosity, will you guys be fixing some of the other model bugs/inconsistencies with the other nations as well? I believe that Narcissistic Black has posted a page on this.


  • Glucozer
    November 23, 2016 at 10:07 am

    I hope Eugen make more national of RED for balance game 😉
    Iran, Vietnam, India,….

  • Alex
    November 25, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    Will there be any updates regarding navy?

  • Xeno
    November 27, 2016 at 3:39 am

    mmmhh…antitank rifles

    I love you Eugen

    Can you add LAV-ADS and Sprut-SD please? Even as a small DLC, I’d buy it, and pretty much everyone else would as well

  • FulmenTheFinn
    November 29, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    Hello again Eugen.

    Having recently watched a preview video of the Finnish deck, and being Finnish myself, I feel obliged to correct a few errors I noticed, so here goes:

    -The EuroSpike in Finland is known as PstOhj 2000, not the 94. They were aquired by Finland in 2000-2002. I mentioned this first because I myself am by training an AT NCO trained with this weapons system in the FDF.
    There is actually no such thing as the PstOhj 94, the predecessors to the PstOhj 2000 were the PstOhj 82 and PstOhj 83.

    -As I’ve mentioned before, the Jatimatic was not a suitable service weapon and would likely never have been used by the FDF. In its place should be the Rk-62 or the Suomi-KP/31 if you really want an SMG.

    -A couple of minor misc ones that are irrelevant like CV jeeps having giant roundels (never seen this in IRL or in 80s/90s FDF photos and I doubt they would’ve had giant roundels in combat) and the Sturmi year being wrong (probably a few other units too) – should be 1943. Again, these are pretty irrelevant errors.

    My biggest gripe is that if the PstOhj 2000 is in the game, then we should also get things like the PKM MG (aquired in the late 90s), MP5 SMG (aquired in the late 90s or 2000) and perhaps more meaty stuff like the Leopard 2A4 tank (aquired in 2003) and CV9030 IFV (aquired in 2004).

    Beyond that I think the overall research is pretty good if not excellent. Well done Eugen developers.

    PS. Out of interest, since you put the Sturmi in the game, why no Panzer IV or other pre-T-55 tanks? 🙂

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