After the success of the first Nation Pack DLC for Wargame: Red Dragon, The Netherlands, we asked you guys to vote for the next country to be added in the game. You were 16,369 people to answer the poll and it’s now time to reveal which nation you’ll soon be able to play.
With a 28,7% of the votes, it’s the famous Israel Defense Forces, Tzahal, that will be added to Wargame: Red Dragon! This extraordinary army brings a lot of new and powerful equipment, such as the Merkava tank (Mark I, Mark II and Mark III), the heavily armored personel carrier Achzarit, the Kfir combat aircraft, and the MadMat Makmat 160mm, which is basically a huge mortar mounted on an obsolete Sherman chassis (just like MadMat?).
And there’s more…
As said before, we had a total of sixteen thousand votes (!), with a clear dominance of Israel:
Nevertheless, it’s clear that we have a lot of red too. For a long time, we have been fully conscious that there are a lot of NATO countries in the game, and that we need to balance that.
This is why we are announcing the development of a third Nation Pack, 100% red, and this one will be a double one! Following your votes, this Nation pack will include both Yugoslavia and Finland (adding up to 23% of votes in the poll), to Wargame: Red Dragon! It should be available later this year.
We are also working on the free 10 versus 10 map for the game, and a couple of new updates are on their way. Keep an eye on the blog in the coming weeks, we’ll keep you posted on the development of this very exciting new content for Wargame: Red Dragon!
Gary
June 23, 2016 at 3:14 pmbest news ever! this is SO – FREAKING -AWESOME! So much goodness coming out in this update, and 2 new redfor nations!
One question, Will you be / considering to introduce the “Pereh” ATGM carrier? it’s disguised as a tank, it was just revealed last year after it was kept a secret since the 80’s
Sovereign
June 23, 2016 at 10:25 pmNeed redfor you damn fools
Atomschlag
June 26, 2016 at 2:16 pmexcatly, Vietnam
Will
August 13, 2016 at 5:56 pmThey should’ve had Vietnam come with the game, then the game would’ve came with 3 bluefor and 3 redfor instead of 3 bluefor and 2 redfor. Could’ve also done a campaign for Vietnam with it too.
jotape22
June 24, 2016 at 10:46 pmWE need another REDFOR country
Esonub
June 25, 2016 at 5:56 pmI hope they will get the “pereh” and the merkava mark IV !
if this nation is going to be good cuz they good lots of types for infantry aswell !
agsfunction1
June 29, 2016 at 2:26 amThe Mk IV is out of time frame. however, the Pereh would be an interesting addition
bilal
June 29, 2016 at 7:57 amPlz wee need enemy for israel like iran or syria too bee more great game
Need more map like lebanon map syria map because the 4/3 of Israeli war in lebanon syrian maps
Need iran iraq for more auction + more map for it too bee iran iraq war 1980-1989
More country like. Italy . Spanish. Turkish. Grace. Argentina. Cuba. Taiwan. Yugoslavia. Pakistan. India. Azerbaijan. Armenia. Ukraine.
Aedan
August 15, 2016 at 4:02 amAzerbaijan, Armenia, and Ukraine are USSR.
adix
October 3, 2016 at 8:27 pmAlso Congo, Sierra Leone, Brunei and Djibouti
Bilal
July 30, 2016 at 9:58 amSteel waiting for israel!!!!!!!
adix
September 10, 2016 at 10:26 amwell….I hope will see there the famous israeli land units Mekava, Magach 7 (M60++) Azacharit, Namer , Wolf, Soltam SPG, Pereh AT, units with Spike missiles, , but also the bulk of their airfoce: AH 64 Apache, Cobra, CH 53,S 70 and airplanes Iai Kfir, F 15, F 16, A 4 and Aermacchi M 346.Just waitin’ !!!
adix
September 10, 2016 at 10:27 amAny idea for the release date?
Vitor Borges Vale
December 2, 2016 at 3:52 amWhere is a package for Brazil? In Brazilians we are being very forgotten, we love strategy games but we are disappointed to be playing with countries that are not ours, we are Brazilians, we want our country in Wargame Red Dragon and if possible translated, I am already tired without seeing this with the Brazil from outside
Where’s Brazil?
Where’s Brazil?
Where’s Brazil?
Where’s Brazil?
Where’s Brazil?
Where’s Brazil?
Where’s Brazil?
Where’s Brazil?
Cringe Face
February 28, 2017 at 4:53 amBecause Brazil is not A Very big Roll on Military, But it would be Very intresting to See Brazil in Wargame: red dragon.
Ruhrlands
June 23, 2016 at 3:46 pmWill other factions, which had low votes than Israel, Finland and yugo, will be added in next year?
I hope that Iran, India, Vietnam and Taiwan can see in-game.
Wirri
June 23, 2016 at 3:58 pmVietnam doesnt bring literally anything new into the game, pls no add it
OK dude
July 6, 2016 at 8:40 ami don’t think so that, Vietnam has many vehicles from both blufor and redfor after vietnamwar, so its will make more wonder for game
Oscar L. Sullivan
July 26, 2016 at 3:06 pmyeah the amercans left a carb load of weapons tanks,helis atiirly, boats. Vietnam would be awesome to be in this game as it actually repersnets a growing country in S.E.A, and miltry power
Burnified
June 24, 2016 at 2:44 amI think a country like Italy should be added because things like the Palmaria and the C1 Ariete could be added.
Yulevia
June 26, 2016 at 7:38 pmThe “I” Nation Pack please, git Italy, Iran and India~
CptInside
June 23, 2016 at 3:47 pmNICE Israel, Yugoslawia AND Finnland how AWESOME! BUt one question when will Great britain get their apaches? I mean they get their AH 64´s 1995 same as the netherlands. Please we want britsh Ah 64s
StalkerDellaNote
June 23, 2016 at 9:02 pmNah
AdmiralObvious
June 23, 2016 at 9:54 pmI’m pretty sure they said the UK was “strong enough” without the AH-64. They arguably are, considering they get the Lynx 3.
Guillaume Le Meur
June 29, 2016 at 6:09 pmShould we make the Lynx 3 a recon helo like the Salamandra? It could work…
adix
September 10, 2016 at 10:29 amFinnland and Yugoslavia, interesting choices…new “blood” for the Reds…just waiting also for those two new nations! Any idea regarding their “inventory”?And the estimated release date?
otreblA_SNAKE_ITA
June 23, 2016 at 4:00 pmGreat for Yugoslavia and Finland, comrades! 😀
Finn Stephenson
June 23, 2016 at 4:05 pmIndia and Pakistan could be added since they use a unique mix of Eastern and Western weaponry. For the IDF, Syria and Egypt could be added as OpFor.
Heinz Guderian
June 23, 2016 at 4:29 pm>Red
>Finland and Yugoslavia
Why don’t you include Italy which is 4th…
Erwin
June 23, 2016 at 4:30 pmWE WANT ITALY!
ITALY! C1 ARIETE, FRECCIA, LINCE MANGUSTA AND THE FUCKING CLASSE ORIZZONTE! GIVE ME THEM!
Please :C
Falc0n28
June 23, 2016 at 11:41 pmDENIED
nuke92
June 23, 2016 at 4:53 pmPlease make a Kekkonen-Tito-nonalligned-coalition
And give Yugoslavia the prototype units that it (and redfor) deserves, since the Dutch got their 1996 units.
My hope is that Yugo will balance out blue and red.
Yulevia
June 23, 2016 at 5:14 pmGood thing Yugo and Finland were also coming, I was about to flip the table when the pie chart had its biggest pie on another blue nation
Yulevia
June 23, 2016 at 5:15 pmLet’s also hope that the other 4 with names inside the pie gets in too, 3 more Reds yay~
Riki
June 23, 2016 at 5:49 pmHi my vote is for india
I think they would make a good a varied compliment to the commen wealth deck.
as well as being a great stand alone deck.
Ilham
July 8, 2016 at 3:30 pmYou do realise that India is a REDFOR nation? it won’t be part of the Commonwealth deck.
They would have been part of the Commonwealth if they didn’t advocate for their independence so quickly…
And if you want to know, I voted for India aswell
Ivanho
June 23, 2016 at 5:57 pmI want to buy Yugoslavia pack (6,00e) ,but If u make 3 nations in one pack that I suppose will be to high price (20,00e). I don’t want to give that much. Try to make nation pack separate, offer us to buy one nation, two or all 3 for some understandable price. Don’t want to give money for Israel if I don’t want to play them.
Buff
June 23, 2016 at 6:09 pmNot that I have any issues with new units but some love for the single player would be more than appreciated. A campaign editor would be GREAT news!!!
Judith
October 5, 2016 at 6:20 amTHIS PLZ
Cdodders
June 23, 2016 at 6:54 pmJust a q, would you be adding in a more modern era to the game?
Sam Abraham
June 23, 2016 at 7:39 pmHello 🙂
Thanks a lot, this will be a nice thing to add. I would love to try this new Armored units.
Could you bring the first Drone plane to the game, very stealthy and hard to be detected, as you know it was the first used in the Israel-Syria war against the SAM defense System in the 80s.
This will be a nice addition as a change.
Thanks again and keep on going guys, your game is the most game I have played in my life and more than the whole C&C series combined, don’t try to copy them, your game is the most innovative one and more interesting to play than the “old” games, so please try to add to this one and you will find us on you side when ever you need us.
LOVE YOU EUGEN,
Sam
eitan schwartz
June 23, 2016 at 9:55 pmIsrael! Yes! Back to playing the game! Any wxpected release date?
Folgore
June 23, 2016 at 9:57 pmPlease add the Italians! Maybe not in this upcoming DLC Pack but in the future (2017) Italy could open to new maps and a possible campaign. For example, The escalated tensions between NATO and PACT cause yugoslavia and Russia to invade Italy, leading to an intervention of both French, British, German, and American forces in order to counter the advance. To make this even more interesting and complicated, the player faces two wars on two different battlefields. One is in Italy, while the other takes place in Germany, as East Germany clashes with West Germany. All in all, the player must find a way to neutralize both threats with a given amount of units. There would be air, land, and possibly sea battles (Adriatic Sea [Italy vs. Russian/Yugoslavian navy]).
Nesher
June 23, 2016 at 10:27 pmStoked to see Israel and Finland finally headed for the mix, but to be honest adding Finland as a Red nation really shows an extremly poor knowledge of Finnish Cold War history and politics. Not happy about that part (though Red Leopards will be kind of fun :o) )
Noobzor
September 14, 2016 at 6:56 pm@Nesher
Its true that Finland played both sides, and adeptly so, but if it came to choosing between Soviet Union and United States in a global war, Finland would’ve joined sides with Soviet Union every time. Finland was, effectively, in the Soviet sphere of influence and not in America’s. The Finnish Communist Party was a major player in the Finnish politics. The Finno-Soviet Treaty of 1948 (Agreement of Friendship, Cooperation and Mutual Assistance, also known as the YYA-Treaty), was one of the cornerstones of Finnish foreign policy during the Cold War, and, again, effectively tied Finland to Soviet sphere. From Wikipedia:
“Under the pact, Finland was obliged to resist armed attacks by “Germany or its allies” (in reality interpreted as the United States and allies) against Finland, or against the Soviet Union through Finland.”
There was no comparable agreement between Finland and the West. I think if you had to tie Finland into either REDFOR or BLUEFOR, it would have to be a REDFOR country. I would personally advocate for the creation of a ‘GREENFOR’ group, which would include non-alinged countries and armies, which don’t neatly fall into either ‘blue’ or ‘red’ categories.
vveyro
September 24, 2016 at 9:23 amNot true. Finland was heavily pro-West during Cold War. The good relations to Soviets were only to prevent another invasion, fear/hate relationship masked in friendliness. Whole defense doctrine, armament and military training was based on countering invasion from East (= making it too costly). You don’t really know about the country it seems, there was a Civil War in 1918 (communist Reds vs. right wing Whites) which ended in victory of Whites, and lot of Reds were executed after the war. Finland also paid a huge cost in blood to stop Soviet invasion in 1939 Winter War, and tried to gain back ground in Continuation War 1941-44, attacking Soviet soil. I grew up in the 80’s Finland, culture and ideals were very pro-USA pro-Capitalism and pro-NATO. We didn’t join NATO to stay neutral, but it was always something many people wanted (and still constant hot potato in political debates). Only reason we didn’t join NATO then and don’t join it now, is not to piss off the Russians. But lot of people would like to. Including previous Prime Minister. Current President also wants to keep the option open. Most military cadres, most veterans, National Coalition Party are pro-NATO. But it’s not great time to join, in the 1980’s we missed our chance because people wanted to keep the Status Quo and remain neutral. Lot of people have regretted it
vveyro
September 24, 2016 at 9:38 amAlso, after the unfortunate Continuation War adventures turning against us, Finland was forced to pay Soviet Union huge war reparations. And officially, we were in good terms with Soviets. So we had to accept the YYA -Treaty conditions, while Finnish military really wouldn’t have defended Soviet against invasion, but changed sides at first opportunity. The hatred for Soviets and Commies ran deep for decades, and being communist never was exactly “cool” here.
[EUG]MadMat
September 26, 2016 at 9:50 amThe reasons why Finland will be part of REDFOR are:
1.) Because the Western countries pretty much considered Finland to be a part of the Soviet camp.
2.) Because historically Finland was within hair’s breath away from becoming an active member of the WP together with the Soviets.
3.) And because Finland had extensive contacts with the Soviet military and a treaty of mutual military assistance with them.
And most of all, Finland has a lot more to offer for Redfor than Bluefor.
vveyro
September 29, 2016 at 9:19 am@MadMat
It doesn’t matter anything what “Western countries” considered Finland’s position to be. The true mental state of military forces and young men of that time (that would have been sent into war) was very patriotic and anti-Soviet. “If the enemy doesn’t come from East, it has flanked you!” was a common catch phrase used by military officers, training conscripts. Every male here that served has heard that joke countless times.
You do realize our foreign policy and warm relations to Moscow was just a clever ploy to keep them at distance? Urho Kekkonen (president of that time) did very clever job with that, but his or Finland’s agendas are not what they seemed like to the outside world. It was just a mask, a protective tactic. The treaty of mutual military assistance was part of that. We were forced into humiliating peace treaty conditions, and huge war reparations that took the country to it’s knees for decades, and the nation was forced to pay war reparation to Soviets after we attacked them in Continuation War. But the fear and suspicion of Soviets lived on, from father to son. It wasn’t talked about in the papers or news, but on the streets, school, homes. Everywhere you went, everyone you met. It was really strong, and universal attitude, we remembered who attacked us in WW2 with a fake justification (Shelling of Mainila) and everyone has heard the stories of veterans and former Lotta’s (female paramilitary organization, that greatly helped the war effort in WW2). What “Western countries considered” doesn’t mean a rats ass. It’s just what they saw from the outside. You don’t know what happened in the inside, unless you lived here back then.
There is no question every man, young and old, would have fought to the bitter end in case of possible invasion. Why would it be any different from Winter War? Veterans here have still huge respect, they are still in 2016 (what’s left of them) considered national heroes that young people look up to. It’s an insult to as nation to consider us RedFor as a given. In reality, not without a fight. You don’t live in Finland, so please don’t tell how we think, after checking Wikipedia. I’m a Staff Sergeant of FDF, got plenty of friends and family working for FDF, some even high ranking officers. Both my grandpas fought the Soviets, and told me all these stories as a kid. Huge heroes to me, although now passed away.
Well, I hope some modder fixes this. Because I might not buy the pack, if Finland is RedFor that’s laughable. Why Swedes, Danes and Norway aren’t RedFor then? Finland is the only Nordic country that fought the Commies in WW2.
vveyro
September 29, 2016 at 9:49 amAlso, what the hell does it matter what “Western countries think” when they wouldn’t have helped us in ANY way, in a possible war defending of our independence. It would have been us fighting alone again, fighting for our independence, just like it was in 1939. No help, sure “Western countries” made some comments but we did all the fighting.
In the Winter War we got some material assistance from Nazi Germany, again something we didn’t do because we liked them (Mannerheim wasn’t a fan of Hitler in reality, turned out much much later in his private letters), but to keep our god damn independence.
Sovereign
June 23, 2016 at 10:29 pmMiddle east needs to be added as two coalitions, one blue and one red. The game is balanced around coalitions and adding nations piece meal will only make the final product incohesive and poorly planned and excecuted.
Samal Rubin
June 23, 2016 at 11:48 pmIt’s Zahal not tsahal fyi.
[EUG]MadMat
June 24, 2016 at 12:07 amDepends on the language spoken …
Tsahal is correct in French, but should have been Tzahal in English indeed. 🙂
Papa Yankee
June 24, 2016 at 9:57 amAaaaaaaand it’s fixed.
bilal
June 27, 2016 at 10:04 amPlz wee need enemy for Israeli army like iran .sirya & wee need more like india pakistan iraq iran italy spanish turkish grace cuba Argentina Taiwan Armenia Azerbaijan vote for it they will bee more great gammmmmmmmmmmme ever
Jack
June 23, 2016 at 11:49 pmI am a bit disappointed that South Africa didn’t make it but close to 4% isn’t too bad though for a relative unknown country I call home
Glocknade
June 24, 2016 at 7:56 amI knew they were not going to win, but I still voted for them. The SADF was pretty dope back in the day.
AirborneEvo
August 8, 2016 at 6:38 pmAgreed!! Some awesome SADF kit available to choose from too.
Will S
June 24, 2016 at 12:24 amTbh, i dont see what Israel has to do with any of the other countries already in wargame…. Middle east might have been a good setting for a new wargame, but having a random country nowhere near any of the other countries seems to be a very random idea. Also if you look at the armoury, blufor already has so many options for individual countries as well as coallitions whereas redfor has way less options, would have liked to have seen a new redfor nation that is relevant to this supposed scenario war. :/
AAA
June 24, 2016 at 2:44 amWhy not consider adding the Gulf Cooperation Council as a faction, Saudi F15’s and UAE 16s block 60 would be great to see, plus it would be a very diverse faction to field in the game
Nando
June 24, 2016 at 3:07 pmConsidered Italy soon because also has unique units!!!
CENTAURO
DARDO
LINCE
CAMILLINO
A129 MANGUSTA
Macchi MB 339 CD
COLMOSCHIN
CARABINIERI
keep it HAVE REGARD!!!! THAT 7.4% is a SLICE… OF A GOOD MARKET !
Nando
June 24, 2016 at 3:09 pmeven in a new chapter with a different context … maybe the Mediterranean after the announcement of yugoslavia
Nando
June 24, 2016 at 3:12 pmand ISRAEL!
gattokowak
August 26, 2016 at 1:12 amle forze da combattimento di fanteria sono bersaglieri alpini para col moschin goi san marco i carbinieri cosa centrano e una curiosita essendo forza di polizia …forze ti riferisci al tuscania che pero fa solo scorte ai politici e istruttori qua e servizio in ambasciate no ha mai partecipato a operazioni belliche ciao
Ivan2
June 24, 2016 at 6:11 pmI know it would be in small demands but Greek Armed Forces are in a pretty good shape,even now during the financial crysis.Also it’s a mix of Russosoviet and NATO units.
VBLs
Leopard2A6 HEL
Apaches
The best Seahawk NATO variant according to the US
LEONIDAS 1&2 APC/IFV
KENTAUROS APC/IFV
ARTEMIS AA gun(exported even to Canada)
S-300M missile systems
BMP-1S APC/IFV
OYK Seal Unit
Efedroi Reserves
F-16 Block 52 and Fighting Falcons
F-4 Phantom GR
Paratroopers/Ski Troopers/Green Berrets
Corsair close ground support Aircraft
and more
Also Greece is the biggest Leopard Operator in the world.Not so many votes but a well trained and equipped army with presence in every NATO mission,fought against Turkey during the Cyprus invasion(BLUE vs BLUE) and garrison in Cyprus,Kosovo,East Mediterranean.Greece-Turkey BLUE would be a nice addition.
Artur981
September 30, 2016 at 9:27 pmlol. it needs to be before a year leo2a6 could be and s300 neither. plus the biggest leopard operator is germany which ahs 2350 and greece has 326. spain has more leo 2a6 than greece
Badgerlend
June 24, 2016 at 7:06 pmHow about you guys add plane dropped airborne or maybe gunship planes
bear365
June 24, 2016 at 9:08 pmmaybe at some point we can get improved infantry options maybe make them a little more capable with more options like fast roping and tactical movement
Otomatic
June 24, 2016 at 9:13 pmItaly is 4th on the list? Better than nothing!
Can’t wait for those anti-air tomatoes and zucchini ATGMs
Alex
June 24, 2016 at 9:51 pmWe got 3 nations instead of 1 and so many comments are about what other country to add! Thanks Eugen for bringing this good news and the all the new nations!
jotape22
June 24, 2016 at 10:58 pmwe need more REDFOR countries , for example : Romania or Yugoslavia
Mike
June 24, 2016 at 11:02 pmDang, I voted for Vietnam! Nothing says tough like a nation that can take on China and America. Well Israel is naturally a good choice too, looking forward to playing them!
American Jagdpanzer
June 25, 2016 at 12:24 amI LOVE YOU EUGEN
ISRAEL AND YUGOSLAVIA AND FINLAND
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Atomic Hobbit
June 25, 2016 at 2:35 amWhen!!!!!!!!!!
Scott
June 25, 2016 at 4:19 amGiven the modelling and art for Merkava marks and unique APCs, it’s going to take a little time for this to come out. Interesting!
Atomic Hobbit
June 25, 2016 at 5:32 amWill the merkava be able to carry troops like the real deal? Also, when will this be available. I need to know how long until I can emerge from my grotto.
TOM
June 25, 2016 at 5:52 amI wish ANZAC can get up to date units, ie, air to air variant of F/A-18 with BVRAAM, and F/A-18F, as well as some M1A1 tanks and Eurocopter Tiger will be really nice.
killerblitz8
June 25, 2016 at 5:26 pmYou want italy in the game & yugoslavia !!
Leonid Beilin
June 25, 2016 at 10:20 pmWould like to see some new campeign/s with the new nations. Don’t you agree…
bilal
June 26, 2016 at 10:18 amI think when u update Israeli army I will automatically update the best Israeli enemy siryan army & Iranian army
Also u need india pakistan italy Turkish Grace Argentina cuba Spanish…. Iraqi old army
Don’t forget ….. the best war: golf war…lebanon Israeli war… Siryan israel war… irap iran war… pakistan india war
So plz doo it I love that game
Tim
June 26, 2016 at 12:31 pmWell there is a problem: Israel only fought Arabians, none of RED nations currently in game ever had military conflict with Israel. In fact, some of them even have weapons of Israeli heritage in their arsenal (Hint: Python-3)
So are we going to see a Syria/Egypt/Iraq general middle east nation pack for RED?
nuke92
July 1, 2016 at 7:46 pmIf we see any from the middle east it would be Iran, after Italy!
This is not the direction Wargame should be heading anyways…
This was not planed by Eugen, it was the choise of the community, not because of common sense but because of rule of cool…
GeneralBambi
July 3, 2016 at 3:56 amActually, Israel has fought Egypt, Iraq, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Jordan, Algeria, Morocco, Cuba, and the Soviet Union. So no, Israel hasn’t “only fought Arabians”. On top of that, why the fuck does it matter? Very few of the RED nations in the game even had military conflict with the fucking NATO nations, besides China and North Korea. That’s why it was called the Cold War.
Little anime girl
August 28, 2016 at 6:00 amWhat? I don’t even. Soviet Union? Cuba? Morocco? What are you?
Gilbk
September 11, 2016 at 3:31 pmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Rimon_20
DRELIX
June 26, 2016 at 1:54 pmI think all of those nations would be great .
OZAN KAHRAMAN
June 27, 2016 at 1:00 pmI want Turkey
Alexandross
June 28, 2016 at 7:54 pmThe Italian army as a whole has nothing to envy to many armies of NATO, the Italian navy is the best of the Mediterranean, also do not forget that many world armies using weapons manufactured in Italy by Italian companies like West Augusta, Oto Melara and many other under the control of Finmeccanica, also the famous drones that use the Americans and are not produced by us, so i would do a thought
animalmother132
June 29, 2016 at 10:50 amCan you make it preorder, so i dont have to wait to buy it?
Diego
July 1, 2016 at 4:31 amBRAZIL PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Malevolence
July 2, 2016 at 4:16 amCanada should change their TH-495s to the more accurate LAVIIIs. They had LAVs as infantry carriers for the US Marines in Airland Battle, Canada should get em too!
Also, Iraq would be an interesting country as it has a mix of of both REDFOR and BLUEFOR (specifically French) equipment.
Let’s get this liked so we can get these changes!
Fredlieche
July 2, 2016 at 8:27 pmPlease buff Red Dragons first. . . you guys still haven’t fleshed out the Asian Nations
Pavel
July 15, 2016 at 7:40 pmI agree with you bro…
Tatol
July 2, 2016 at 11:17 pmHi guys, First of all a big Thanks to EUGEN systems for their Beautiful Strategic Games from RUSE to Wargame series and Act of Aggresion, I have a question and don’t know where i must tell it . So i ask you here… Is it possible for you to add new warship models in the next DLCs ? 🙂 Include Slava-class & Ticonderoga class cruisers and Kirov-class battlecruiser also Arleigh Burke-class destroyer ??! I don’t ask for amphibious assault ships , Nuclear Aircraft carriers or nuclear Submarines (difficult request), but add some new models that I Think you can handle… What about adding Strategic bombers like B-52,B-1, TU-160,TU-22M and TU-16 etc ? 🙂
Anyway till today you did damn fine job , Keep it up.
Antsa
July 5, 2016 at 3:21 pmFinland as Redfor? 😀 You need to take a history lesson about Cold War era, Eugen. We are really not Redfor… While I would want Finland to be in the game as a Sergeant of Finnish Defense Forces. But if you put it to Redfor, won’t buy it honestly. That’s like historically most wrong thing you could do. Put some nucler submarines and attack helicopters to Finland, while you’re at it
Matthew
July 5, 2016 at 8:12 pmreally good news for thai wargame players (include me) next county should be thailand because it’s a real warrior of the Southeast Asia, thailand is my county Thailand is #1 Southeast Asia Military
Aligator
July 6, 2016 at 12:23 amTZAHAL will be IDF in English
Eddie
July 6, 2016 at 6:29 amSo happy that Israel won (I voted for it, even though we DO need a LOT more reds…)!!!
I was really hoping that the Israelis would come with the H-53 transport helicopter. I know this wasn’t added for the Americans, but really hope that this is included for Israel!!
makellaris
July 8, 2016 at 8:31 amGreece has some of the best units of NATO. From Leopard 2 tanks to A/A OSA AK, to SF units. Even S-300 AA systems, HAWK, Patriot, MLRS. you name it.
Arkady
July 8, 2016 at 11:53 amcan you guys please finally add the Ultramarine’s????
It’s getting silly now. And a good redfor enemy to put the cherry on the cake? I dunno, eldar or chaos??
These guys field some insane shit.
I’d like to see a Challenger-mkII face of against a dreadnaught…….
Sir Santi
July 10, 2016 at 12:06 pmI think Israel makes a great addition to the list of countries in the game. I just think that since there already two new BLUFOR nations, perhaps a new REDFOR nation (Particularly a geographically direct adversary of Israel) could be added as well.
thatfurrywriterguy
July 12, 2016 at 7:05 amAdding South Africa would be really cool. Early MRAPs would be neat. Also, they really should add a game mechanic or two: combat engineering and recovery vehicles.
Matthaus
July 12, 2016 at 8:12 pmI believe Iran vs Iraq would represent the epitome of the cold war since it practically marked the end of it. vietnam should also be somehow included but none of them produced much units of their own.
Zack Abu
July 16, 2016 at 5:17 pmIt would be cool to make an EU deck or some superoganizartion, that includes for the example of the EU, Italy, Spain, Germany, Poland etc….
Also I would love to see Finland in the game
derkos
July 18, 2016 at 12:40 amSounds good. Would be even better, if you would anounce a further complete Wargame addon. This one should add all units of modern era up to 2020. Middle-east would be nice for the next part.
Afterwards please go on with Wargame 2, which could be located in WWII 🙂
Martin
July 21, 2016 at 12:35 amIf thers an Israel faction, so we need Syrian Arab Army
Stefano
July 21, 2016 at 10:50 pmGreat choose, also if i vote and prefer Italian army… but I dream that the next add is for the Mediterranean countries, like, Italy, Spain, Greece and Turkey for the blue force… and the north african countries like Lybia, Egipt for the red force… and maybe also the aircraft carrier and LPD and the LHD!
Huu Thinh
July 22, 2016 at 4:04 pmWhat About VietNam. They are great. Win USA and China !
ZhangYouge
August 16, 2016 at 10:27 amNo,the ontemptible VietNam Lost to Chinese in 1979.
Emanuel Junior
July 27, 2016 at 9:07 amWe have Brazil?
poor company PL
July 30, 2016 at 1:20 amwhen Poland, Czech Rep will join Nato? Seems we are there, not with Russia.
Apofis
August 13, 2016 at 12:49 pmWargame has its own story noting break out of cold war (when those countries where under soviet occupation). Bare in mind that it’s only RTS game with some realistic or hypothetical equipment featuring it’s own story not a modern combat simulator. ( If it would be soviet tanks would have tendency to self explosion and french infrantry would flee from combat twice as fast as motostrelki. )
Daniel
August 2, 2016 at 1:48 amMore campaigns please
THOR
August 4, 2016 at 12:12 pmImperium of man is good. Or Orks.
Ivanho
August 6, 2016 at 6:13 pmGive me Jugoslavija NOW! 😉
joseph ahner
August 7, 2016 at 6:19 pmFinland should be available to Blufor and Opfor because they were not members of either NATO or the Warsaw Pact and were preparing for the worst from both sides. They were neutral, bought Russian weaponry, but still maintained friendly relations with NATO. In the event of war they might have joined either side depending on which one granted them the best prospect for maintaining their independence as a nation.
ZhangYouge
August 16, 2016 at 10:24 amI think if Israel appear the NATO’s Street fighting ability will be stronger.And I also want to know When will the New DCL publish in China.
VictorXII
August 17, 2016 at 7:04 pmThis is amazing, I can not wait to get this dlc and start playing!
jwtk
August 18, 2016 at 1:48 pmafter when this DLC (israel nation pack) come to sell .
will you make the other nation pack ?
Dragan Laciboj Laslo
August 22, 2016 at 7:23 pmYUGOSLAVIA!!!!
Aos Al Hasani
August 24, 2016 at 6:32 amI’m a little disappointed Iraq got so little votes, especially considering the variety of units it could bring to the game as well as the variety of scenarios that Iraq would make possible. The Iraqi Army was one of the most active in the era Red Dragon is set in, and would’ve provided a vast range of scenarios (e.g. Iran Iraq war, Arab Israeli war, invasion and garrison of Kuwait). It’s airforce was also one of the most advanced in the world at its time and it’s army the 4th largest in the world both employing a range of weaponry from both BlueFor and RedFor nations as Iraq held no real loyalties, but would just buy from whoever was willing to supply, be that the USSR, France or the U.S. Shame to emit it from the game considering how large a role it played in global conflict in this time period.
Me Me
September 4, 2016 at 12:45 pmIllogical choice.
You should have let the people vote again AFTER you announced Israel. Of course people would have voted for Egypt or Syria then.
Unlike the predecessors this game is becoming too much of a random nation clash of clone units.
It should be possible to upgrade European Escalation by a small team with Air units & better sound for a reasonable price that earns you a profit?!
Phairy Good potato
September 5, 2016 at 5:13 amDear Eugen:
I would be happier if you made a modern (2000-2020) Wargame where there is no blufor vs redfor, just countries to choose from kinda like Total War and a better Naval battle system with actual Aircraft carriers.
For example: (Russian federation, Japan, India, Spain vs US, Japan, Italy & South Africa)
Also If it is possible to make more of a Total War style campaign In Europe, Middle east, & East Asia.
Oh and make it modding friendly by allowing people to create models, adjust stats, etc…
Sincerely Phairly Good Potato
Phairy Good potato
September 5, 2016 at 5:16 amp.s Thank you for The previous Wargames and good luck, we’re all counting on you.
Pavel
September 10, 2016 at 1:00 amIran, Syria or India should be defently added as one of the most powerful non NATO armies after USSR or China although their equipment is pretty the same as USSR.
Turkey as a 2nd most powerful army of NATO is also interesting.
And please, add et least 1 more campaign!
Pavel
September 10, 2016 at 1:03 amoh, and I’m defently for a European Escalation *remastered* with an engine of RD or even better
adix
September 10, 2016 at 3:05 pmHi,
First of all: FORMIDABLE GAME, and a brilliant idea of developing it.Trully an interactive and challenging game.I have more than 1.500 hours played any many others on studying the units and scenarios.
So, if it is allowed, I can put my contribution here with a few little suggestions, regarding the existing nations inventory.
First thing, I must say that generally the land units on the nations are very complete and accurate represented, and I have only some small suggestions on that, more regardind the air forces.
So:
-A “classic” MLRS should be added to US, because they have only that ATMOS launcher,not quite effective (recharging time) on the quick fights;Otherwise, a very complete inventory;
-Maybe on China it should be added the FC 1/JF 17 multimission aircraft, light attack K8 KARAKORUM (widely known) H 6 bomber (iconic bomber on Cold War) and the WZ 10 attack helicopter and Z 8/SA 321 transport/uttility helo and also the new Type 96 tank & a development of their IFV and APC (a lot of new units developed by China since 80s),it will be a pleasure to fight with their “copy paste” technology;
– A better air strike capabilities to France,- ground attack capabilities should be added to Mirage 2000 or to Rafale;An improved aircraft with air-to-ground deck seems usefull to me;And, if possible more Tigre helicopters to one deck, like Cobra;s on USA, SKOR and Jap;
– Same idea on British Typhoon, maybe adding some guided air-to-ground missile to Typhoon or Tornado (Maverick, Brimstone) and, maybe adding AH 64 Apache on their inventory;
– Same idea, adding ground attack cappabilities, to JAS 39 on Sweden;
– On Russia/Soviets replacing command helo Mi 8 instead of Mi 4 and adding on air deck Tu 26 (iconic bomber during Cold War) and maybe increasing the number of Mi 28 and Ka 50 for a deck and maybe, why not, a Su 34 new aircraft;
– On Germany maybe it is an ideea to expand their air-to-ground capacities (some modifications on Tornado’s load and adding Typhoon on the inventory), APC Boxer, Fennek reccon vehicle, new HNI 90 uttility/transport helicopter;
– On Japan maybe adding Mitsubishi F 2 (F 16 locally produced) and S 70 helicopter , and increase the number of modern tanks on a deck (Kyu MAru Shiki tank, only maximum 4 available);
– Regardin Australia&New Zeeland , since there is a special designed nation, maybe putting some new units, adapting to the latest “age”, like Tigre attack helicopter (which is trully available and counting as a foce only on France deck) , AB 206 Kiowa (long time in service and already in the game at the US deck), M1 Abrams (the backbone of Australian tank force, already used on US deck in the game), ANZAC air force seems to me exceptionally illustrated in the game;
As a general mention:
– There are a lot of new aircrafts, state of the art – Su 27, J 39, Typhoon, Rafale, Mirage 2000 with lack of the ground attack cappabilities, and maybe, it should be added;
– I think the China inventory must be completed with some units to be really ” competitive”;
– USA artillery must be significally increased (MLRS, a larger number of modern SPGs available on a deck) to reflect it’s real capabilities;
– Russian/Soviet inventory might be expanded with new units (Tu 26) but also as a number of the modern helo’s on a deck, S 300 SAM smissile system, and why not the well known SCUD missile (also in Warszaw Pact and North Korea use).Also the speed of MIG 25/31 might be changed to express their real performance on this feature.
– and generally, if and when it is possible, new units might be introduced in this fabulous game, especially those widely exported, known, and existing in the inventory of the playable nations (BAE HAWK -AUS, FIN, UK, CM 170 Fouga Magister – FIN, FRA, ISR, GER, PILATUS PC 7/9 – FRA, USA, AUS, GER, XIAN H 6/TU 16 – RUS, CHN, AGUSTA A 109 – in service of UK, ANZAC, SWE, US , Japan, SA 321 SUPER FRELON- welcome to be on Israel, France and China invetory))
Also, maybe the range of air-to-air missile should be sligtly addapted not to be on some “standard” ranges setted generally.
Regarding naval forces , maybe the British Duke Type 23 frigate and german MEKO might be welcome.
Regarding the new nations, in the game, I already express my happiness for the Israel being there, and it’s inventory (which I hope will include variants of famous Merkava & Magach /M 60 tank, Azacharit and Nagmachon APCs, Spike anti tank missile, Soltam M68 and M 109 SPGs, Patriot and HAwk SAM & Machbet SPAAG , Apache, CH 53 Stallion, SA 321, AH 1 Cobra, MD 500 and Sikorsky S 70 helicopters, IAI Kfir, IAI Nesher, A 4 Skyhawk, CM 170, F 16 and F 15 and maybe old intensive use SO 4050 Vautourairplanes) and , if it is allowed, I put a few iconic units which, in my mind can be added to Finland :
-famous PATRIA APC, XA 180/360000 – already existing in the present game, Patria AMV, Sisu Nasu , Leopard 2 (but this is a rather BLUFOR than REDFOR), CROTALE ,NASAMS, ZSU 57-2, SA 7/16 portable, MARKSMAN Turret on T55 chassis, T72 and T 55, BMP 1, BTR 50 and BTR 60, BM 21 GRAD, MTB LV, CV 9030 FIN, RGM 32, 2 S 1 Gvozdika, SAAB J 35 Draken, MIG 21, CM 170 MAGISTER, F/A 18 A HORNET (again BLUFOR unit), BAE HAWK, MI 8, HUGHES MD 500 and NH 90 Helo.
I must say that putting there soviet units (above mentionated) like T 55, BMP 1, BTR’s, MT LB, Mi 8, MIG 21 as well as western units like Leopard, CV 9030, Crotale, Hawk, MD 500, NH 90, F/a 18 you can create a mis est-west deck, very necessary from my point of view in this moment for the game , a new and exciting combination of techology, I am sure welcomed by all passionate players.
Regarding Yugoslavia, I think is another issue like fFnland, because there are a lot of units produced local, which, if it is possible, might be put on Yugo’s armory: M 84 tank (based to T 72 but developed locally) toghether with ols soviet and locally modernized T 55, M 80 IFV somehow similar to BMP 1 but a different local IFV developed, OT M 60 APC locally produced toghether with BTR 50, 60, BTR 152 and MT LB (soviet source), BOV local APC reconaissance vehicle and soviet BRDM 2, M 63 PLAMEN MLRS, KUB, BOV 3 and S 75 DIVINA SAM systems together with portable SAM, helos: SOKO Gazelle (licence) and MI 8 and aircrafts as J 21 and J 22, SOKO G 2/G4 (locally produced) and soviet MIG 21 and MIG 29.
Also, it can be consider to put some BLUFOR units widely introced on yugoslav army like M 18, M 36 and M 47 tank (already in the game on South Kore for example).
I hope these suggestions might be somehow usefull for the old and new nations inventory and I appologize for such a long and annoying ” list of wishes” but I had that on “my sol” after hors and hours of playing this phenomenal game so I put them all here :))
One after another, it is an excellent game, and adding new nations, and new units it a more than welcome strategy to develop the game as well as the interest of the players and attracting new players worldwide.
From my point of view, it’s the most realistic and exciting game I ever played.
Just waiting new releases and sorry for a soooo long letter.
dshch
April 24, 2017 at 11:38 am亚洲国家应该加强，现在版本里亚洲国家太弱势了。尤其是中国，作为这个游戏的主角，不应该这么弱，。虽然冷战时期的中国武器装备很落后，但是中国军人的素质是远高于欧美，苏联等国家的。因此，中国的步兵应该得到加强，其他可以选择性的加强
x4253
September 13, 2016 at 8:21 amThe choosen nations will be great additions to the game. Can’t wait to play them. Tough, i would love to see Switzerland in the game (yes, we are small, but Switzerland was armed to the teeth until 1995 😉 ). Also, it would add a variety of unique equipment and a many prototypes
Ex:
Panzer 58 (swiss developed tank)
Panzer 61 (swiss developed tank)
Panzer 68 (swiss developed tank, including various versions of it)
Panzer 87 (Leopard 2A4 but Built in switzerland)
Panzerkanone 68 (unique swiss developed SPG)
Infantry armed with the SIG510, SIG540, SIG550 and other unique equipment (Fusiliers, Panzergrenadiers, Grenadiers, Mountain Grenadiers, Paratrooper Recon, Miland Tank hunter, Sappeurs, etc.)
Prianha III and IIV wheeled IFV with different arments (incl tank hunter version, commando version)
Saurer Tartuga tracked IFV
Mowag Pirat tracked IFV
35 mm Kan Fla Pz B22L (self developed AA tank)
etc.
But i am also realistic and know that Switzerland probably won’t be part of Wargame :/
MAKSYM
September 15, 2016 at 7:59 amI VOTED FOR IRAN AND = AM GLAD TO SEE ON THE SPOTLIGHT – CUZ IT SHOULD BE A PERHAPS TERRORISTS VS ISRA FOR INSTANCE ADD HISSBALLAH OR EQUIVILLANTS JOINT TERRORIST FORCES…..)))
ALSO A DIVIDENT UKRAINE, RUSSIA, POLAND ETC….FROM NOWADAYS FORCES LOOK COULD BE INTERESTING……. EVEN THOUGH IT IS COLDWAR ERA GAME. HOPE THEY FIX ALL THE ERRORS IIN VIDEO AUDIO INPUTS AS WELL….THERE WERE MUNCHIES IN THE MENU
David Galloway
September 28, 2016 at 2:15 amthai / burma. INDIA / CHINA . pak/ india. iran / Israel.
dshch
April 24, 2017 at 11:39 am中国和印度的关系一直很差，甚至还爆发过战争
Ptt
September 30, 2016 at 3:15 pmNice to hear Finnish forces will join the pack…
…but it’s total nonsense to place it on REDFOR.
Finland has had three military conflicts after it got independent from Russia on 1917. Two of those conflicts – Winter War and Continuation War – were against Soviet Union. Almost 100 000 Finns and more than 400 000 Soviets died in those wars.
(The third conflict was against Germany in the last year of WW II. It was a relatively small campaign after the two previous wars: losses in the final conflict against Germany were less than 2000 men in total.)
Present-day Finnish Defence Forces is fully compatible & trains regulary with NATO and with other Scandinavian forces.
How about reconsidering the color, Eugen?
[EUG]MadMat
September 30, 2016 at 11:03 pmFrance has fought three wars with Germany since 1870, and yet we’re in the same team in Wargame.
France has been allied to the Soviets during WW2, even fightinh with them (Normandie-Niemen squadron), yet in Wargame we are in opposing coalitions.
Alliances in Wargame are based on the Cold War, not WW2 or even older wars.
The reasons why Finland will be part of REDFOR are:
1.) Because the Western countries pretty much considered Finland to be a part of the Soviet camp.
2.) Because historically Finland was within hair’s breath away from becoming an active member of the WP together with the Soviets.
3.) And because Finland had extensive contacts with the Soviet military and a treaty of mutual military assistance with them.
And most of all, Finland has a lot more to offer for Redfor than Bluefor.
briangarcia
October 25, 2016 at 8:37 pmhola quisiera hacer una pregunta a la empresa de “EugenSystem” y es la siguiente ¿ por que la mayoria de los carros y vehiculos le falta su arma secundaria la metralleta coaxial y algunos sin embargo la tiene pero no funciona. tambien todo o casi todos lo que utilizan un cañon siempre estan acompañados de una metralleta secundaria para repeler la infanteria. gracias espero que algun dia lo arreglen y muy buen juego, el mejor de estrategia
[EUG]MadMat
October 26, 2016 at 4:35 pmHi,
We apologize, but we don’t speak Spanish. Thanks to Google Translate, though, it seems your inquiry is related to the lack of coaxial machine-guns.
It is indeed a limitation imposed by the engine, more precisely the UI. In most case, this was compensated by the addition of an AA machine-gun.
Hoping it will answer your question.
Nostroo
December 2, 2016 at 1:35 amWhy there is no Hungarian Ppls Republic in this list?
Jiri Starek
December 2, 2016 at 1:58 pmHello EugenSystem 🙂
advance my query you want to greatly thank you for nations extension. Israel in particular – have met me my dream 🙂 Well, this is also the reason for my inquiry. Still plans on other nations? Because he would have thrown some regional Enemy against Israel. It offers a very Egypt / Syria or Iran 🙂 For me, you are among the best ever gaming studios. And certainly in terms of realistic RTS’re the best in the world rulez 🙂 I am with you from game R.U.S.E. Since then, not a moment hesitate to buy each of you create 🙂 A wargame is simply top it all off.
Thank you
regards Jiri
Czech rep.
gen.qasem soleimani
December 22, 2016 at 9:09 pmPlease add iran next time…I want IRGC qods force
dshch
April 24, 2017 at 11:57 am1990-2020年代的武器装备可以作为wargame reddragon的一个DLC来卖
nic
September 12, 2017 at 6:47 pmItaly and Iran will be nice)
Sokol
October 30, 2017 at 4:20 pmItaly and Albania 🙂 pls Albania 🙂
Ledio
February 5, 2018 at 4:50 pmALBANIAAAAA 🙂
Ledio
February 5, 2018 at 4:51 pmAlbania 🙂